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Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Ruh Roh another e-badass resorting to profanity to make their point.

I like how using the fact that it's a video game makes people think they have a free pass to be ignorant twits.

Not meant to be racist yet the fact that the general term "Spear Chucker" was a long-time racial epithet had no bearing whatsoever on your choice of name? Oh, and I'll bet you made the character dark-skinned with corn-rows too?

It's not racist to see racism in a widely-known racial slur being used in such a blatant form.

no, it was white and blonde. The fact that you instantly jumped to that conclusion proves you are just as ignorant as those you try and shun.

If you believe in racism you are the racist, race is an illusion and does not exist, It'd make you shit bricks to know that i was african american and had corn rows yeah?

and as for being an e-badass, i hardly believe you would have the balls to have the condescending uptight high horse RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO tard tone in your voice and be a douche to everyone if it wasn't the internet.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 06:59 AM // 06:59

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

no, it was white and blonde. The fact that you instantly jumped to that conclusion proves you are just as ignorant as those you try and shun.

If you believe in racism you are the racist, race is an illusion and does not exist, It'd make you shit bricks to know that i was african american and had corn rows yeah?

and as for being an e-badass, i hardly believe you would have the balls to have the condescending uptight high horse RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO tard tone in your voice and be a douche to everyone if it wasn't the internet.

The one i reported was black...I couldn't remember the exact name, so I was guessing that one was you. Then again...what's to say you're telling the truth?

Don't give me that "if you see race you're racist." Sometimes that fits but you can't deny the fact that it exists. How is it that people who defend "minorities" are racist themselves? That makes no sense. If I'm white and I defend african americans by calling out someone making racial epithets, I'm a racist? Against whom...other whites? Please...The racists are not the ones recognizing a racist remark or a racial undertone in an online character name, the racists are the people putting it out there to be recognized in the first place. Having an awareness of something doesn't make the person who is aware a participant.

And it doesn't matter what you believe...because I do act similarly in person as I do here. I don't make too many friends but I honestly don't want to make friends with people who become targets of my personality. You seem to fit that bill. The friends I have are quality, share my viewpoints, have and will in the future agree with me in this matter.

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

The one i reported was black...I couldn't remember the exact name, so I was guessing that one was you. Then again...what's to say you're telling the truth?

Don't give me that "if you see race you're racist."

And it doesn't matter what you believe...because I do act similarly in person as I do here. I don't make too many friends but I honestly don't want to make friends with people who become targets of my personality. You seem to fit that bill.

as for telling the truth, what reason would i have for lying, it's the internet, what reason would i have for lying, it's completely anonymous, so who cares.

And as for the "if you see race you're a racist" thing, it's true, if you see people as being a different race than you then you are the true racist, race is an illusion, human beings are the most genetically similar species on the face of the planet, if a simple difference in hereditary traits warrant defining someone as a different race then i have one thing to say "darwin be damned", little bit harder to argue with charles darwin than it is to argue with me eh?

Anyone who says they do not wish to make friends is a person crying out for friends, and telling themselves that they don't need them to reassure them that they've made the appropriate choices in life and are no less than anyone else simply because of their deficit in friends is lying to themselves, all people are drawn together, regardless of what they try to tell themselves. Just like the same reasons birds fly in flocks and gorillas live together in communities, without each other we die.

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 07:09 AM // 07:09

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Originally Posted by Forgotton200

A11Eur0 Will consider my opinion but he will PM you whether it's acceptable or not. (he's my self-righteous organization boss btw).

Ok thanks, I will be awaiting a message from A11Eur0 to let me know if i may name my character Phun Nazi.

Oh and i saw a character in GToB named Gunslinger Burritos. I went ahead and /reported it because it is offensive to Mexicans who carry guns. It is also offensive to small Spanish speaking donkeys that carry guns.

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Oh, and I'll bet you made the character dark-skinned with corn-rows too?

WOW

Now that is a racist comment. Holy crap dude! Are you trying to say that all paragons who throw spears have dark skin and Cornrows?

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:11 AM // 07:11

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Originally Posted by daze

Ok thanks, I will be awaiting a message from A11Eur0 to let me know if i may name my character Phun Nazi.

Oh and i saw a character in GToB named Gunslinger Burritos. I went ahead and /reported it because it is offensive to Mexicans who carry guns. It is also offensive to small Spanish speaking donkeys that carry guns.

used to have one named phorum nazee, it got reported, so i'm guessing using the actual word nazi, wont fly. lmao, but, it's worth the try.

cunning linguist, and master debater didn't last long either, wonder why? oh wait, that's right, because it was meant to be a joke.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14

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Originally Posted by daze

Ok thanks, I will be awaiting a message from A11Eur0 to let me know if i may name my character Phun Nazi.

Oh and i saw a character in GToB named Gunslinger Burritos. I went ahead and /reported it because it is offensive to Mexicans who carry guns. It is also offensive to small Spanish speaking donkeys that carry guns.

You do that...because i deleted that character a long time ago. Congratulations.

Joe Fierce...your claims about my personal life have absolutely no bearing on this discussion, they're just some form of incorporeal ammunition that you as well as other childish people seem to have to resort to in order to remain a factor in any argument. In short: my life is none of your business.

daze...no I did not bring up the example of skin color because it's a stereotype, i bring up that example because that was the specific description of the paragon I reported by that name. Learn to read.

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

You do that...because i deleted that character a long time ago. Congratulations.

That was you with such a blatantly inappropriate and offensive named cahracter??!11??!1!

Wow.

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:19 AM // 07:19

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

You do that...because i deleted that character a long time ago. Congratulations.

Joe Fierce...your claims about my personal life have absolutely no bearing on this discussion, they're just some form of incorporeal ammunition that you as well as other childish people seem to have to resort to in order to remain a factor in any argument. In short: my life is none of your business.

you're the one who brought your personal life into as you started rattling off about your high standards you seek in those you befriend and gave a hint that you didn't wish to make friends in the statement in which you basically said that "you didn't wish to make friends with those who don't agree with your viewpoints or are subject to crossfire of your personality"

Please stop trying to force people to conform to what you see as fit and appropriate.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

you're the one who brought your personal life into as you started rattling off about your high standards you seek in those you befriend and gave a hint that you didn't wish to make friends in the statement in which you basically said that "you didn't wish to make friends with those who don't agree with your viewpoints or are subject to crossfire of your personality"

You(or someone else...I'm too lazy to go back and check) made some comment about if I'd act this way to people in person, and my comments were in response to that...so how about you check your facts son. Oh and learn to quote more accurately.

daze, if you think that name is offensive, maybe you should learn to read the book it came from and learn the context of it.

Anyway, this discussion has degraded to nothing more than me fighting a couple of d-bag children as they attempt to pin some form of hypocrisy on me and make jabs at what they presume my personal life is like.

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 07:23 AM // 07:23

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

you're the one who brought your personal life into as you started rattling off about your high standards you seek in those you befriend and gave a hint that you didn't wish to make friends in the statement in which you basically said that "you didn't wish to make friends with those who don't agree with your viewpoints or are subject to crossfire of your personality"

Please dont attack someone by the circle of friends they choose. Its not in good taste.
There is nothing wrong with a group of friends getting together drinking milk whilst discussing their latest book.

Bobulation · Dec 25, 2008, 07:24 AM // 07:24

I don't see any reason for anyone to report names. Do you seriously read a name and go, "Wow, I am extremely offended by that. I better inform A-net on this matter to make sure others are not offended as I was," or do you just go, "Lawl I kuld reeport dis guy nd get hem banned lulzulzulzulzzz" Just let other people do what they want.

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Ruh Roh another e-badass resorting to profanity to make their point.

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Anyway, this discussion has degraded to nothing more than me fighting a couple of d-bag children as they attempt to pin some form of hypocrisy on me and make jabs at what they presume my personal life is like.

Classy.

it's always the person who is losing who claims first that it's a waste of time to argue and calls the other participants children, even though they are just as immature for participating such an argument.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

I don't see any reason for anyone to report names. Do you seriously read a name and go, "Wow, I am extremely offended by that. I better inform A-net on this matter to make sure others are not offended as I was," or do you just go, "Lawl I kuld reeport dis guy nd get hem banned lulzulzulzulzzz" Just let other people do what they want.

More like a middle ground..."this name is inappropriate". Resources are in place to resolve any possible conflict it might result in.

Again, talk to Anet and their one-click ban-hammer. Then again, if it's not just one report that does the trick, maybe there's something to it. If 10, or 100 people read the same thing, see the same thing, and all report it, and you get banned....maybe you should rethink your naming practices. Save the jokes and toilet humor for transient discussions with like-minded individuals instead of forcing it on people just trying to play their game. Keep in mind that even if you don't make racist comments, your name is still attached to every message you post in local/trade chat and is non-filtered.

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 07:28 AM // 07:28

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Originally Posted by Bobulation

I don't see any reason for anyone to report names. Do you seriously read a name and go, "Wow, I am extremely offended by that. I better inform A-net on this matter to make sure others are not offended as I was," or do you just go, "Lawl I kuld reeport dis guy nd get hem banned lulzulzulzulzzz" Just let other people do what they want.

That will never happen as long as there are self appointed police of other people. Just live with it there will always be people who will righteously justify bringing consequence upon others. All we can do is hope to troll them on a message board for 3 pages and get on with life.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:29 AM // 07:29

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

Classy.

it's always the person who is losing who claims first that it's a waste of time to argue and calls the other participants children, even though they are just as immature for participating such an argument.

The post I was referring to with the profanity was much more than a single abbreviated term. Oh, and it's usually the person who resorts to personal attacks and direct insults that is losing the argument...because they're getting desperate. I'm just tired of trying to convince people like you of how they seem to others.

Bobulation · Dec 25, 2008, 07:34 AM // 07:34

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Originally Posted by daze

That will never happen as long as there are self appointed police of other people. Just live with it there will always be people who will righteously justify bringing consequence upon others. All we can do is hope to troll them on a message board for 3 pages and get on with life.

Hopefully there aren't any police of other people in presearing or ill probably be banned pretty quick for Bucking Fuffalos.. A11Eur0, you dont play in Pre ever, do you?

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:35 AM // 07:35

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

The post I was referring to with the profanity was much more than a single abbreviated term. Oh, and it's usually the person who resorts to personal attacks and direct insults that is losing the argument...because they're getting desperate. I'm just tired of trying to convince people like you of how they seem to others.

A broad ended statement does not mean that i'm the first person to resort to personal attacks.

When it comes to "profanity" as you put it, i find it more ignorant to make a decision in your mind that "these words are bad", it's archaic, ignorant and superstitious than it is to just say it as an expression of how you feel, if your vocabulary is limited simply to these words then yes it's a show of ignorance, but otherwise, it's like anything else, another word.

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I'm just tired of trying to convince people like you of how they seem to others.

And the same to you, if everyone else in the world seems to be arguing with you, you'd think it'd click the little light on in the head that says "hey it's not that the world has something wrong with it, maybe there's something wrong with me".

The fact that you persist to attempt to get in the final argumentative word in on this discussion proves that your immaturity far exceeds what i had at first thought it was.

A11Eur0 · Dec 25, 2008, 07:41 AM // 07:41

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Originally Posted by Joe Fierce

A broad ended statement does not mean that i'm the first person to resort to personal attacks.

When it comes to "profanity" as you put it, i find it more ignorant to make a decision in your mind that "these words are bad", it's archaic, ignorant and superstitious than it is to just say it as an expression of how you feel, if you vocabulary is limited simply to these words then yes it's a show of ignorance, but otherwise, it's like anything else, another word.

And the same to you, if everyone else in the world seems to be arguing with you, you'd think it click the little light on in the head that says "hey it's not that the world has something wrong with it, maybe there's something wrong with me".

The fact that you persist to attempt to get in the final argumentative word in on this discussion proves that your immaturity far exceeds what i had at first thought it was.

It's called tact, and the ability to use mature reasoning. If you feel the need to put these words into a character name, that's different from slipping the errant profane word into your everyday conversation. Hell, I'm probably worse than half the people here for my use of profanity in everyday situations. Thing is, whether you believe the word to be merely an arbtrary taboo, there still exists the taboo in accepted society, and since you are bound by NCsoft's terms of service while in the game, you should at least respect their wishes. It's just another word, yes, but when people by and large still have that taboo about it, maybe you should use a little mature reasoning and refrain from its usage where it's not appropriate, such as making a character name around it.

People argue with me because I'm not afraid to tell them what's up. Plain and simple. People who ignore others just to "get along" and not "make waves" I feel are cowardly individuals. It's people like you who see a seemingly one-sided argument and jump in on the more populated side thinking it's the winning one that make me seem argumentative. People don't like joining in on a debate where it's one against many if they would side with the one. Me, I don't mind it. Yes, that means there's something wrong with the world, where people are too afraid of confrontation that they'd ignore it and allow what they feel is unjust or inappropriate to run rampant. Maybe that's why this world is in the shit-hole that it is, and that you seem to be directly affected by according to your avatar.

Joe Fierce · Dec 25, 2008, 07:53 AM // 07:53

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

It's called tact, and the ability to use mature reasoning. If you feel the need to put these words into a character name, that's different from slipping the errant profane word into your everyday conversation. Hell, I'm probably worse than half the people here for my use of profanity in everyday situations. Thing is, whether you believe the word to be merely an arbtrary taboo, there still exists the taboo in accepted society, and since you are bound by NCsoft's terms of service while in the game, you should at least respect their wishes. It's just another word, yes, but when people by and large still have that taboo about it, maybe you should use a little mature reasoning and refrain from its usage where it's not appropriate, such as making a character name around it.

People argue with me because I'm not afraid to tell them what's up. Plain and simple. People who ignore others just to "get along" and not "make waves" I feel are cowardly individuals. It's people like you who see a seemingly one-sided argument and jump in on the more populated side thinking it's the winning one that make me seem argumentative. People don't like joining in on a debate where it's one against many if they would side with the one. Me, I don't mind it. Yes, that means there's something wrong with the world, where people are too afraid of confrontation that they'd ignore it and allow what they feel is unjust or inappropriate to run rampant. Maybe that's why this world is in the shit-hole that it is, and that you seem to be directly affected by according to your avatar.

I don't join in on anything that i see as the "winning" or "more populated" side, because honestly, i'm a human being and i have my own opinion, if it goes with the grain given the current situation, then so be it, if it goes against it, then so be it. usually i find myself being against the grain, this is one of the few times that i'm actually with it.

When it comes to "knowing when it is appropriate" to act or talk a certain way, I'm one of the few people who think it's always appropriate to be YOURSELF regardless of the company you are with, and that it's INAPPROPRIATE to be a conformist. A curse word isn't going to make the sky fall, nor the pacific bubble, so get over it.

And lastly as for ignoring something and letting it run rampant, i see you being a dick head as being unjust and am attempting to stop you from running rampant. So maybe if it wasn't for this discussion, we'd probably get along alot better than you'd think.

daze · Dec 25, 2008, 07:54 AM // 07:54

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Originally Posted by A11Eur0

Me, I don't mind it. Yes, that means there's something wrong with the world, where people are too afraid of confrontation that they'd ignore it and allow what they feel is unjust or inappropriate to run rampant. Maybe that's why this world is in the shit-hole that it is, and that you seem to be directly affected by according to your avatar.

Or maybe, just maybe. Most people have a "live and let live" outlook. In other words if it doesnt hurt anything, leave it alone.
I believe that my rights end where the next persons rights begin.
In other words, i have the right to do whatever the hell i want to do until it infringes on the next persons rights to do whatever the hell they want to do.

So if someone wants to name their character "Buck Futter" then whoopde freakin do. It doesn't hurt me or diminish my rights to do what i want. But like you said, you don't report people because you are offended by it. You report people to try to flex some sort of authority over another. Otherwise you would just let it go.